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Hello;

I'm making a little research about the Volkssturms (the German People's militia 1944-45), and I'm triying to get as many info as possible. I would be really happy if someone post here some info, references or links about this matter...

Thanks everybody in advance!.

Santiago.

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My Recent Posts · (07/04/05

I have a nice article about it. Will look into it this week.

But I'm sure even more can be found on the net.

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Volkssturm campaign!

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Everytime he looks at something, Dennis sees a campaign.

Maybe that's why - ....

Mmmm... nah. I better not.

JH

Life is like a bag of halloween candies:
You never know what you'll freakin' get!
Maybe a pin in the mouth, or stuff that'll make you see funny colours and the room'll start spinning.
Sounds like fun - 'till you crash in the wall...

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Yes, maybe a Volkssturm campaign for Autumm 2005, but first I need to research a lot!

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My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Santiago, I have the article with me. Do you have any specific questions?

What I can say now is that if you plan on making new graphics make sure they have different clothing - no uniforms! - with a white band and a fire fighter's helmet.

They were armed with old 98k's but even more often with grenades and Panzerfausten.

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Is there anything special you are interested in, Santiago?

Otherwise I can try to come up with some basic facts and/or perhaps a general overview.

I've done a (small) bit of research into the Volkssturm in the past and should still have one or two books lying around.

Folkert

EDIT: Hmm, must remember to check the thread while working on a post.

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

Hello;

I'm interested on the OOBs of the Volkssturm units for all the districts or ''gauletiers'', this is really important for my research.

And also I would be happy with some info about strange and curious facts...

The icons of the PG2 volkssturms could be also improved, but I'm not an icon maker for the moment

Thanks for your time guys!.

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Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment

My Recent Posts · (07/05/05

The lexicon has quite some information of the Volkssturm organisation: www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht...turm-R.htm

It is in German but you could try to translate it with Bablefish.

My Recent Posts · (07/06/05

To my surprise Feldgrau hardly has anything on the subject except for this little summary...

Volkssturm: Traditionally the Landsturm was third-class infantry equivalent somewhat to militia. Towards the end of WWII the concept was revived for smaller ad-hoc home-defense units to be pulled together for local defense because of the crumbling situation on the Eastern Front. These ad-hoc defensive units were to be a part of the newly formed Volksturm and would augment frontline combat troops. The Volksturm included all males aged 16-60. Even those with occupational deferrals could be members. Typically Volksturm units which saw action were composed of men between 45 and 55 but there were exemptions for those with debilitating problems. Regarding weapons the Volksturm deliberately avoided using "old shotguns" and the like so that there would be no question as to their legal status. Germans widely refused to serve in any type of partisan organization for fear of being shot if captured. The Volksturm was armed, albeit poorly, but with whatever military weapons were available and often with captured weapons. The common assumption today is that the Volksturm didn't really amount to much. It is actually untrue to claim that the Volksturm was totally ineffective as Volksturm troops fought extensively on the Eastern Front, particularly in East Prussia, Breslau, along the Oder River and in Berlin. The 19.Armee on the Upper Rhine became so dependent on Volksturm troops that it was nicknamed the 19.Volkssturm-Armee. Volksturm troops also fought along the Western Front as well. While often ineffective in prolonged combat some Volksturm units fought well in local defense, in static positions, and in river positions

and a picture

An older soldier of the German Volkstrum learns to use the powerful and deadly Panzerfaust while his Volksturm commanders look on.
(And I think I even know what general is standing at the rear)

But I recommend you take a look at the Feldgrau forum and use the search function

and a Polish site if you happen to speak the language

And I'll take a look at my article tonight.

My Recent Posts · (07/06/05

25 September Hitler ordered the Total War and on 18 October Himmler announced there would be a German home defence force defending every piece of German land and shooting at planes in German skies. That force was supposed to assist the regular forces allowing them time to regroup and rest. It would be a mass force that was not allowed to surrender but that would fight till the death. Himmler compared it to Kriegsmarine customs.

The levy was organized by Gau and under the command of a Gauleiter. Everyone between 16 and 60 were called upon, also those belonging to minority groups and even criminals.
Until a uniform was provided (which in the end only few got) the only distinction was a red or yellow band with the German emblem and the words "Deutscher Volkssturm Wehrmacht".

The Germans hoped to get 6 million men or 10,180 batallions.
The first levy would deliver 1,2 million of men between 20 and 60, including the members of the NSDAP, the Allgemeine SS, the SA, the NSKK and the NSFK what gave 1850 batallions of which 400 were placed on the front lines.
The second levy would get 2,8 million or 4860 batallions (of which 1050 in frontline service). This group mainly came from men working in factories, and they were not intended to be full-time soldiers, but more as worker-soldiers defending their own factories and cities.
The third levy were the young ones, from 16 to 19 but also 15 year olds who volunteered

: 600,000 boys or 1040 batallions.
The fourth and final levy for 1,4 million men or 2430 batallions was to be taken from those unfit for duty and volunteers older than 60. These were meant to be used for surveillance and guarding of camps.
The league of German women (NS-Frauenschaft) was also called upon, and on 23 March 1945 even the firemen.

Commander of the Volkssturm was Martin Bormann assisted by Stabsfhrer and Oberbefehlsleiter Helmut Friedrichs and SS-Obergruppenfhrer Gottlob Berger. As I already said, every Gau had a Gauleiter. The Gauleiter was assisted by a Gaustabfhrer. The Gau was divided into several Kreis (circles) under a Kreisleiter assisted by - you guessed it - a Kreisstabsfhrer. Every Kreis would be composed of roughly 12 batallions.

From the start there was a struggle between Bormann and Himmler to control the Volkssturm, and between lower class commanders from the army, SS and SA who know where grouped together.

Now this may be a bit more interesting to you, the batallions of the first levy counted 6 companies of which one artillery. Each company was divided into 4 Zge in turn divided into 3 or 4 Gruppen of 10 men. In each company 3 groups of 5 men were responsible for anti-tankcombat and equiped with 10 Panzerfausten. These men were usually recruited out of the most young for obvious reasons.
So a batallion of the first levy counted theoretically 649 men of which 27 officers. Batallions of the other levies only had 576 men, again theoretically.

They had a double number, for instance the batallion 25/97 was the 97th batallion of the 25th Gau (=Eastern Prussia)

They were promised grey uniforms but only very few received these. Their helmet was to be those of the Gebirgsjger. Their bands around their arms were either red with the words "Deutsche Wehrmacht" or a yellow one with "Deutscher Volkssturm-Wehrmacht".

There were also special batallions, like the Kampf-Bataillon, Bau-B, Ersatz-B, ... and even a nightfighter Staffel

There were even four Volkssturm Batallionen outside of Germany, two in Denmark (400 and 402) and two in Bohemia-Moravia (605 and 610).

... Ok, that's all for now. Time for bed, will do the other half later, cannot say when though.

My Recent Posts · (07/06/05

Consult George F. Nafziger's "The German Order of Battle, Infantry in WWII."

It lists every single Volksgrenadier Division created (along with all infantry units, of course), their composition and rating. For instance, the majority of Volkgrenadier divisions were part of the 32nd Wave called up in Sept 1944 and were 1st Rate (went immediately to the front) or 2nd Rate (began immediate training).

1st Rate VGD units included: 18th, 26th, 47th, 62d, 183d, 212th, 246th, 256th, 271st, 272d, 276th, 326th, 337th, 340th, 349th, 352d, 361st, 363d, & 708th VGD's.

2nd Rate VGD units included: 583d, 584th, 585th, 586th, 587th, & 588th VGD's.

In addition there were some formed from reserve and security divisions; these were: 148th, 159th, 176th, 180th, 189th, 190th, 203d, 281st, & 462d VGD's.

The typical VGD division had the following organization:

Division Staff
-mapping section
-MP detachment
Fusilier Company (bicycle)
-company staff
-1st Submachinegun Platoon
-2d Submachinegun Platoon
-Recon Platoon
-Heavy Weapon Platoon
-Infantry Howitzer Platoon
Signals Battalion
-Battalion Staff
-Telephone Company
-Radio Comapny
-Supply Platoon
1st Infantry Regiment (bicycle)
-Regimental Staff
-Regimental Staff Company
--1st Infantry Battalion (bicycle)
---3 Infantry companies
---1 Heavy support company
---1 Machinegun company
---1 Cavalry platoon
--2d Infantry Battalion
---(same as 1st Battalion) plus
---1 Infantry Howitzer company
---1 Panzerfaust company
2d Infantry Regiment
-(same as 1st Regiment)
3d Infantry Regiment
-(same as 1st Regiment)
Artillery Regiment
-Regimental Staff
-Regimental Staff Battery
--1st Light Artillery Battalion
---1 Staff Battery
---Calibration Section
---3 75mm Gun Batteries
--2d Light Artillery Battalion
---1 Staff Battery
---Calibration Section
---3 105mm Howitzer's
--3d Light Artillery Battalion
---(same as 2nd Battalion)
--4th Heavy Artillery Battalion
---1 Staff Battery
---Calibration Section
---3 150mm Heavy Howitzer Batteries
Panzerjaeger Battalion
-Battalion Staff
-Battalion Staff Company
-1 Panzerjaeger Company (mot)
-Self-Propelled PanzerJaeger Company
-Self-Propelled AA Company
Pionere Battalion
-Battalion Staff
-2 Pionere Company (bicycle)
Feldersatz Battalion
Division Support
-Division Supply (26 LMG's)
-Ordnance Company (4 LMG's)
-Maintenance Platoon
-Administrative Units
-Medical units
-Veterinary Company
-Field Post Office

Each individual VGD is listed along with the date it was formed, where it fought, and what happened to it (captured, destroyed, etc)

Hope this helps a bit.......................

My Recent Posts · (07/06/05

Volksgrenadiere and Volksturm is two entirely different things though.

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My Recent Posts · (07/07/05

@

Yes......I had forgotten about that

Makes my previous post irrelevent, I guess

My Recent Posts · (07/07/05

Hello!;

All the info posted here until now it's useful for me

. Copying all the info...

Thanks!.

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Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment

My Recent Posts · (07/07/05

@pAK

Volksgrenadiers were IIRC reformed infantry units at the end of the war, given the name Volks- because that would bring a spark in their patriotism and combat spirit.

My Recent Posts · (07/08/05

Interesting article, Civettone!

Might I ask where it is from?

And since I spotted some inaccuracies in it, would you terribly mind, if I posted some correction/comments on it?

Folkert

My Recent Posts · (07/09/05

By all means, go right ahead !!

The article is from "39-45 magazine" a French magazine of October 1997, written by Antoine Georges.

And Santiago, I still have to summarize the second half of the article. Unfortunately due to the current terrorism debates I haven't found the time to work a bit more on this subject. I will do it somewhere next week, I promise

My Recent Posts · (07/10/05

Hello!;

Many thanks for your promise and don't worry if you are lack of time!. The final results of my research will be available at Latin Generals in the future...

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Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment

My Recent Posts · (07/16/05

The tasks of the Volkssturm were multiple. They had to stand up against aerial and maritime landings, eliminate enemy agents and saboteurs, guard the bridges, roads, important buildings, reinforce the regular troops that had suffered great losses, fill up gaps in the front, occupy relatively calm sectors and make sure the millions of prisonners of war didn't rebel.

Volkssturm recruits had to follow 48h of training a week, learning to shoot with a rifle, to throw grenades, to use the Panzerfaust and Panzerschrek, and occasionaly to fire with a SMG and to lay mines.

In fact a large part of the first and second levy never received arms, the third and fourth levy never received arms.
Only about 700 batallions were actually put into action, mainly in the eastern frontiers: Danzig, Prussia, Brandenburg, Silesia, Pomeranien, Wartheland, Styrien and the Sudetes. In the west batallions were used in the region of Essen and the Westmark.

That's all for now.
When do you need the rest, Santiago?

My Recent Posts · (07/17/05

Hello:

Well, I'm finishing my article about the Volkssturms, but in fact I have not a fixed date to get more info, since it's an article for myself, basically it's little research which possibly will be converted into a PDF document, and released at Latin Generals, and maybe used for a possible Volkssturm campaign. Don't worry if you have not enough time to post your info... I can wait for it without any problem

.

Many thanks again!.

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Santiago Fuertes	Deutscher Volkssturm	Lead	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/03/05 15:37:42) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Hello; I'm making a little research about the Volkssturms (the German People's militia 1944-45), and I'm triying to get as many info as possible. I would be really happy if someone post here some info, references or links about this matter... Thanks everybody in advance!. Santiago. Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment
Civettone	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#1	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/04/05 02:34:34) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have a nice article about it. Will look into it this week. But I'm sure even more can be found on the net.
armygroupdf	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#2	[-]
Posts: 9334 (07/05/05 09:21:32) GENERAL Commander of Expeditionary Forces Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Volkssturm campaign!
Real Jawn Henry	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#3	[-]
Posts: 3276 (07/05/05 10:12:50) ADMIRAL Royal Canadian Navy Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Everytime he looks at something, Dennis sees a campaign. Maybe that's why - .... Mmmm... nah. I better not. JH Life is like a bag of halloween candies: You never know what you'll freakin' get! Maybe a pin in the mouth, or stuff that'll make you see funny colours and the room'll start spinning. Sounds like fun - 'till you crash in the wall...
Santiago Fuertes	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#4	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/05/05 14:01:17) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yes, maybe a Volkssturm campaign for Autumm 2005, but first I need to research a lot! Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment
Civettone	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#5	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/05/05 15:28:10) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Santiago, I have the article with me. Do you have any specific questions? What I can say now is that if you plan on making new graphics make sure they have different clothing - no uniforms! - with a white band and a fire fighter's helmet. They were armed with old 98k's but even more often with grenades and Panzerfausten.
The Man Without Name	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#6	[-]
Posts: 100 (07/05/05 15:50:10) Private Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Is there anything special you are interested in, Santiago? Otherwise I can try to come up with some basic facts and/or perhaps a general overview. I've done a (small) bit of research into the Volkssturm in the past and should still have one or two books lying around. Folkert EDIT: Hmm, must remember to check the thread while working on a post.
Santiago Fuertes	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#7	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/05/05 16:15:19) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hello; I'm interested on the OOBs of the Volkssturm units for all the districts or ''gauletiers'', this is really important for my research. And also I would be happy with some info about strange and curious facts... The icons of the PG2 volkssturms could be also improved, but I'm not an icon maker for the moment Thanks for your time guys!. Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment
armygroupdf	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#8	[-]
Posts: 9334 (07/05/05 23:55:38) GENERAL Commander of Expeditionary Forces Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The lexicon has quite some information of the Volkssturm organisation: www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht...turm-R.htm It is in German but you could try to translate it with Bablefish.
Civettone	Re: Deutscher Volkssturm	#9	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/06/05 02:12:45) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	To my surprise Feldgrau hardly has anything on the subject except for this little summary... Volkssturm: Traditionally the Landsturm was third-class infantry equivalent somewhat to militia. Towards the end of WWII the concept was revived for smaller ad-hoc home-defense units to be pulled together for local defense because of the crumbling situation on the Eastern Front. These ad-hoc defensive units were to be a part of the newly formed Volksturm and would augment frontline combat troops. The Volksturm included all males aged 16-60. Even those with occupational deferrals could be members. Typically Volksturm units which saw action were composed of men between 45 and 55 but there were exemptions for those with debilitating problems. Regarding weapons the Volksturm deliberately avoided using "old shotguns" and the like so that there would be no question as to their legal status. Germans widely refused to serve in any type of partisan organization for fear of being shot if captured. The Volksturm was armed, albeit poorly, but with whatever military weapons were available and often with captured weapons. The common assumption today is that the Volksturm didn't really amount to much. It is actually untrue to claim that the Volksturm was totally ineffective as Volksturm troops fought extensively on the Eastern Front, particularly in East Prussia, Breslau, along the Oder River and in Berlin. The 19.Armee on the Upper Rhine became so dependent on Volksturm troops that it was nicknamed the 19.Volkssturm-Armee. Volksturm troops also fought along the Western Front as well. While often ineffective in prolonged combat some Volksturm units fought well in local defense, in static positions, and in river positions and a picture An older soldier of the German Volkstrum learns to use the powerful and deadly Panzerfaust while his Volksturm commanders look on. (And I think I even know what general is standing at the rear) But I recommend you take a look at the Feldgrau forum and use the search function and a Polish site if you happen to speak the language And I'll take a look at my article tonight.
Civettone	Article	#10	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/06/05 16:24:01) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	25 September Hitler ordered the Total War and on 18 October Himmler announced there would be a German home defence force defending every piece of German land and shooting at planes in German skies. That force was supposed to assist the regular forces allowing them time to regroup and rest. It would be a mass force that was not allowed to surrender but that would fight till the death. Himmler compared it to Kriegsmarine customs. The levy was organized by Gau and under the command of a Gauleiter. Everyone between 16 and 60 were called upon, also those belonging to minority groups and even criminals. Until a uniform was provided (which in the end only few got) the only distinction was a red or yellow band with the German emblem and the words "Deutscher Volkssturm Wehrmacht". The Germans hoped to get 6 million men or 10,180 batallions. The first levy would deliver 1,2 million of men between 20 and 60, including the members of the NSDAP, the Allgemeine SS, the SA, the NSKK and the NSFK what gave 1850 batallions of which 400 were placed on the front lines. The second levy would get 2,8 million or 4860 batallions (of which 1050 in frontline service). This group mainly came from men working in factories, and they were not intended to be full-time soldiers, but more as worker-soldiers defending their own factories and cities. The third levy were the young ones, from 16 to 19 but also 15 year olds who volunteered : 600,000 boys or 1040 batallions. The fourth and final levy for 1,4 million men or 2430 batallions was to be taken from those unfit for duty and volunteers older than 60. These were meant to be used for surveillance and guarding of camps. The league of German women (NS-Frauenschaft) was also called upon, and on 23 March 1945 even the firemen. Commander of the Volkssturm was Martin Bormann assisted by Stabsfhrer and Oberbefehlsleiter Helmut Friedrichs and SS-Obergruppenfhrer Gottlob Berger. As I already said, every Gau had a Gauleiter. The Gauleiter was assisted by a Gaustabfhrer. The Gau was divided into several Kreis (circles) under a Kreisleiter assisted by - you guessed it - a Kreisstabsfhrer. Every Kreis would be composed of roughly 12 batallions. From the start there was a struggle between Bormann and Himmler to control the Volkssturm, and between lower class commanders from the army, SS and SA who know where grouped together. Now this may be a bit more interesting to you, the batallions of the first levy counted 6 companies of which one artillery. Each company was divided into 4 Zge in turn divided into 3 or 4 Gruppen of 10 men. In each company 3 groups of 5 men were responsible for anti-tankcombat and equiped with 10 Panzerfausten. These men were usually recruited out of the most young for obvious reasons. So a batallion of the first levy counted theoretically 649 men of which 27 officers. Batallions of the other levies only had 576 men, again theoretically. They had a double number, for instance the batallion 25/97 was the 97th batallion of the 25th Gau (=Eastern Prussia) They were promised grey uniforms but only very few received these. Their helmet was to be those of the Gebirgsjger. Their bands around their arms were either red with the words "Deutsche Wehrmacht" or a yellow one with "Deutscher Volkssturm-Wehrmacht". There were also special batallions, like the Kampf-Bataillon, Bau-B, Ersatz-B, ... and even a nightfighter Staffel There were even four Volkssturm Batallionen outside of Germany, two in Denmark (400 and 402) and two in Bohemia-Moravia (605 and 610). ... Ok, that's all for now. Time for bed, will do the other half later, cannot say when though.
paK 88	Volksgrenadiers	#11	[-]
Posts: 1919 (07/06/05 20:59:33) ADMIRAL COMSUBPAC Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Consult George F. Nafziger's "The German Order of Battle, Infantry in WWII." It lists every single Volksgrenadier Division created (along with all infantry units, of course), their composition and rating. For instance, the majority of Volkgrenadier divisions were part of the 32nd Wave called up in Sept 1944 and were 1st Rate (went immediately to the front) or 2nd Rate (began immediate training). 1st Rate VGD units included: 18th, 26th, 47th, 62d, 183d, 212th, 246th, 256th, 271st, 272d, 276th, 326th, 337th, 340th, 349th, 352d, 361st, 363d, & 708th VGD's. 2nd Rate VGD units included: 583d, 584th, 585th, 586th, 587th, & 588th VGD's. In addition there were some formed from reserve and security divisions; these were: 148th, 159th, 176th, 180th, 189th, 190th, 203d, 281st, & 462d VGD's. The typical VGD division had the following organization: Division Staff -mapping section -MP detachment Fusilier Company (bicycle) -company staff -1st Submachinegun Platoon -2d Submachinegun Platoon -Recon Platoon -Heavy Weapon Platoon -Infantry Howitzer Platoon Signals Battalion -Battalion Staff -Telephone Company -Radio Comapny -Supply Platoon 1st Infantry Regiment (bicycle) -Regimental Staff -Regimental Staff Company --1st Infantry Battalion (bicycle) ---3 Infantry companies ---1 Heavy support company ---1 Machinegun company ---1 Cavalry platoon --2d Infantry Battalion ---(same as 1st Battalion) plus ---1 Infantry Howitzer company ---1 Panzerfaust company 2d Infantry Regiment -(same as 1st Regiment) 3d Infantry Regiment -(same as 1st Regiment) Artillery Regiment -Regimental Staff -Regimental Staff Battery --1st Light Artillery Battalion ---1 Staff Battery ---Calibration Section ---3 75mm Gun Batteries --2d Light Artillery Battalion ---1 Staff Battery ---Calibration Section ---3 105mm Howitzer's --3d Light Artillery Battalion ---(same as 2nd Battalion) --4th Heavy Artillery Battalion ---1 Staff Battery ---Calibration Section ---3 150mm Heavy Howitzer Batteries Panzerjaeger Battalion -Battalion Staff -Battalion Staff Company -1 Panzerjaeger Company (mot) -Self-Propelled PanzerJaeger Company -Self-Propelled AA Company Pionere Battalion -Battalion Staff -2 Pionere Company (bicycle) Feldersatz Battalion Division Support -Division Supply (26 LMG's) -Ordnance Company (4 LMG's) -Maintenance Platoon -Administrative Units -Medical units -Veterinary Company -Field Post Office Each individual VGD is listed along with the date it was formed, where it fought, and what happened to it (captured, destroyed, etc) Hope this helps a bit.......................
von Adler	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#12	[-]
Posts: 11762 (07/06/05 23:32:50) GENERALLEUTNANT 25. Pz.Div. AOK 'Norwegen' Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Volksgrenadiere and Volksturm is two entirely different things though. Adler's Homepage \| Adlerkorps \| adler@adlerkorps.com
paK 88	Volksgrenadiers	#13	[-]
Posts: 1919 (07/07/05 00:31:18) ADMIRAL COMSUBPAC Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	@ Yes......I had forgotten about that Makes my previous post irrelevent, I guess
Santiago Fuertes	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#14	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/07/05 00:37:03) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hello!; All the info posted here until now it's useful for me . Copying all the info... Thanks!. Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment
Civettone	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#15	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/07/05 03:02:27) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	@pAK Volksgrenadiers were IIRC reformed infantry units at the end of the war, given the name Volks- because that would bring a spark in their patriotism and combat spirit.
The Man Without Name	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#16	[-]
Posts: 100 (07/08/05 09:34:51) Private Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Interesting article, Civettone! Might I ask where it is from? And since I spotted some inaccuracies in it, would you terribly mind, if I posted some correction/comments on it? Folkert
Civettone	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#17	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/09/05 05:28:27) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	By all means, go right ahead !! The article is from "39-45 magazine" a French magazine of October 1997, written by Antoine Georges. And Santiago, I still have to summarize the second half of the article. Unfortunately due to the current terrorism debates I haven't found the time to work a bit more on this subject. I will do it somewhere next week, I promise
Santiago Fuertes	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#18	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/10/05 04:22:45) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hello!; Many thanks for your promise and don't worry if you are lack of time!. The final results of my research will be available at Latin Generals in the future... Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment
Civettone	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#19	[-]
Posts: 5335 (07/16/05 08:44:32) GENERAL Director General EU Military Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The tasks of the Volkssturm were multiple. They had to stand up against aerial and maritime landings, eliminate enemy agents and saboteurs, guard the bridges, roads, important buildings, reinforce the regular troops that had suffered great losses, fill up gaps in the front, occupy relatively calm sectors and make sure the millions of prisonners of war didn't rebel. Volkssturm recruits had to follow 48h of training a week, learning to shoot with a rifle, to throw grenades, to use the Panzerfaust and Panzerschrek, and occasionaly to fire with a SMG and to lay mines. In fact a large part of the first and second levy never received arms, the third and fourth levy never received arms. Only about 700 batallions were actually put into action, mainly in the eastern frontiers: Danzig, Prussia, Brandenburg, Silesia, Pomeranien, Wartheland, Styrien and the Sudetes. In the west batallions were used in the region of Essen and the Westmark. That's all for now. When do you need the rest, Santiago?
Santiago Fuertes	Re: Volksgrenadiers	#20	[-]
Posts: 919 (07/17/05 15:52:34) GENERAL DE EJÉRCITO Ejército de Tierra de España Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hello: Well, I'm finishing my article about the Volkssturms, but in fact I have not a fixed date to get more info, since it's an article for myself, basically it's little research which possibly will be converted into a PDF document, and released at Latin Generals, and maybe used for a possible Volkssturm campaign. Don't worry if you have not enough time to post your info... I can wait for it without any problem . Many thanks again!. Come to The Latin Generals First PG2 Spanish World Site Visit LG Equipment Site The home of the Latin Generals equipment