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LuigItaliano2 |
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Is there still some state of the ex CSA that still have the flag of the CSA during the civil war?? For example I know that Texas has a flag with a big white star in red and wihte and blue flag, but I never saw any flag with 13 confederate stars! Do you know something more???
Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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Slash78 |
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Texas has one big star because they think they're the only state that counts.
The CSA flag probably had the same number of stars as it did states that seceded. I can't think of the number right now. "Sorry about your luck, GI."
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Mark Kirby |
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The Mississippi State Flag does.
Georgia used to have it.
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LuigItaliano2 |
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11 states seceded Slash, but the flag had 13 stars, I don't know if it was because the first colonies or because the Kentucky and the W. Virginia revendication!
Anyway thanks to you and Mark! Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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Slash78 |
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There was no West Virginia prior to the Civil War. It was created in 1863.
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LuigItaliano2 |
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I know, it was created when some counties of the west Virginia formed the West Virginia because they didn't want to do the secession! Anyway after that you noticed this to me I think that the 13 stars depend from the 13 original colonies!
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ickysdad |
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The 12th. & 13th. stars I think represented Kentucky & Missouri,they were added in November,1861.However Kentucky & Missouri being part of the CSA at that time was more like wishful thinking on part of the CSA.
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LuigItaliano2 |
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Thanks ickys!
Anyway I know that there were many Union troops from Kentucky and Missouri! Do you know something about the squads of William Quantrill??? Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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N Sengupta |
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Luigi,
There are people here in my great state of Georgia who wish to see the CBF (Confederate Battle Flag) back on the state of Georgia flag. Narayan |
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vichyfrance |
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LuigItaliano2 |
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Vichy, very noce site, thank you!
Quote: Narayan, and what do you think about it? I think that it is ever a piece of you Hystory, I don't mean the ideas of the cause of the secession of CSA, that were defeated, but I mean the fact that after 140 years it should be like a remembrance of a past, an important past of USA, and not only Georgia. As you know Italy was divided into many states until the 1860s years, but each region, province and city, has its own Historical flag and we have a big love for our flags, in some part of Italy the regional flags are loved more than the Italian flag. Saluti! Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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PFC Lobo |
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Luigi all of the fifty States in the US each have an individual flag.
Check this site out for a lot more information www.50states.com/ "Never prophesy--especially about the future." |
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Wabi Sabi |
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Luigi the problem is that flags are symbols of beliefs. Even the though you are correct that it is an important part of our history, I doubt the the local Italian flags that you speak of represent areas that believe in slavery for a large minority.
The flag that the US southerners want to use is a symbol of oppression to a lot of people. Why do these people have to live under a flag that represents hatred to them? F.A.B
WABI SABI http://wabisabiphotography.com |
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LuigItaliano2 |
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Thanks for the link Lobo!
Wabi, if it is so, you are right! I believed that in USA those problem were cancelled! Anyway I remember that the Ku-Klux-Klan still used those flags in their march. Are they diffused only in the ex CSA or in all USA??? |
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Wabi Sabi |
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I would say that only the KKK in the south use the CSA flag. Though the KKK, neo-nazis and other white racist groups exist in many areas in the US, I doubt that anyone not actually living in the south or is from the south would ever use that flag.
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N Sengupta |
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"Narayan, and what do you think about it? I think that it is ever a piece of you Hystory, I don't mean the ideas of the cause of the secession of CSA, that were defeated, but I mean the fact that after 140 years it should be like a remembrance of a past, an important past of USA, and not only Georgia. How do you in Georgia feel about this?? I think that the only truely secessionist movement in USA could be only in Texas!
As you know Italy was divided into many states until the 1860s years, but each region, province and city, has its own Historical flag and we have a big love for our flags, in some part of Italy the regional flags are loved more than the Italian flag." Luigi, Individual flags are great. However, my own feeling is that we should never forget that we are Americans, and not Georgians, which I think that a lot of CBFers do. Also our flag, based on the CBF, is based on a symbol of horrific morality - slavery and is akin to the Nazi flag being used as part of the Bavarian flag (if it were to be used as such) or something. Narayan |
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Thanks for your answer folks!
Now all is clear to me! Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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vichyfrance |
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One must keep in mind that the antebellum states were pretty much independent countries forced into an illegal union by Lincoln and his fellow war criminals.
"In an hour of darkness a blind man is the best guide. In an age of insanity look to the madman to show the way." Warhammer 40k
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LuigItaliano2 |
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Vichy, so there were criminal actions during the war?? I believed that only the squad that made guerrilla in Kansas zone were evil... William Quantrill for first...
I want know more about this! Love your city, defend its colours!Ultras Ternana
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Wabi Sabi |
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I think what Vichy is trying to say is that some believe that once the South decided to secede from the union that they were no longer part of the USA. Therefore the laws of the North no longer applied to the South effectively making it a separate country.
If you beleive this, then the North had no authority to wage war on the South, thereby making Lincoln and the North war criminals. F.A.B
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N Sengupta |
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"One must keep in mind that the antebellum states were pretty much independent countries forced into an illegal union by Lincoln and his fellow war criminals. "
Eeep! VichyFrance, Talk about illegal. First of all, the antebellum states were just that: states that were part of the Union. And talk about criminals, what were those slave owners doing? They were owning slaves. That must be the most criminal thing invented by humanity. Now, more on illegal The Southern States, who are so adamant that they were fighting for liberties were in fact fighting to preserve slavery. And more anti liberty was everywhere. The vote of succession was taken by just about 600 men out of a population of 10 million people. Tennessee refused, so its governor engineered its succession. The South invented conscription. So the South succeeded illegally using a non-democratic vote to preserve slavery and forced non-slave holders to fight their war. There is no honor in any of that. Narayan |
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